I think it matters. It's something you wanted to do with your parents. And they wouldn't have taught you if they didn't want you to be part of the thing they love.

[It's his turn to pause, and to look the tiniest bit awkward.]

I mean...it's something you can do as a family, and I think that matters. But I don't really know much about it, so...

[So maybe he's projecting a little bit. Sue him, it sounds nice. It'll never be the kind of thing he has, but it's nice to see other kids with families that are like that. It means they aren't all as bad as his.]